It’s not pretty but I’m hopefulâ it helps the girls make it to spring. I created a candy board setup for each of them an am convinced it will bring them through the winter. I’m in northern michigan and just took on ten more hives that I pick up tomorrow. The candy boards are made from baggie feeder rims (or mountain camp rims) that are about three inches deep, and a plastic queen excluder, the kind that many people donât like. Quick question. I am so cheap I do the same thing but use the gutter guard that you buy at Lowes it comes in rolls 20′ long by 6″ wide and it is less than $4. But it doesn’t change my advice. I’ve used these for two winters now with excellent results. I made the quilt box with your original instructions before reading that you switched to hardware screen, but also I don’t necessarily want to buy another frame, or try to make one (not a good carpenter yet). Tough opening a hive and finding swarm cells when the weather report says 40sF and rain for the next 2 weeks. I absolutely want to use this idea I was just misinformed about winter bees. Rusty, on another related topic what do you think of using these year round when you are going to feed nucs etc. If it’s cold enough to require a candy board, it’s too cold for robbers to fly. Enough for bee space? Last week it was sunny and calm so I decided to check on them to see if any bees were eating the sugar. I have a gable roof over the bars which gives me plenty of space for feed. I still think the best time to add a candy board with pollen is after the solstice. The system runs a simulation based on your planned expenses and transfers to Funds and Goals. Fortunately for my bees, I changed my mind about the timing, softened the “craps” in water, then added more sugar to get a sandcastle consistency. Do you have a bakery nearby? This way is so easy to remove, you just pick it up and remove it. C&H Professional BAKER’S SUGAR Ultrafine 4lb (5 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IEXP2CG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TxGvCbNR1Z1KY. Tissue paper and sugar may block that pathway. Excellent idea and design!! I continue to experiment with timing. I think it is a common misconception that the bees chew up the sugar cake; I’ve always felt the process is as you described. You must have some kind of equivalent up there. Still, in the prior years no one could have convinced me to try them. Bakerâs sugar in small quantities can be expensive, but in the the 50-pound bag, I pay only 2 cents per pound more than regular sugar, which is totally worth it. Guess that’s because I laid them on floor in hive? I want to use the queen excluder for the candy board as that is what I have on hand but aren’t winter bees bigger and won’t that cause an issue with them trying to get thru the excluder when they have to get to more sugar? After it sets up overnight, I remove the cups and install on my hive. They are easy to make, the bees love them, and any leftover candy can be reused or dissolved into syrup for spring. Last fall all my hives were short going into winter because of the long drought, so they needed lots of feed. I have a small colony, an August swarm…she’s a good queen and I concluded the bees were so few they wouldn’t have added much to my other two strong hives, so I decided to try and keep them going. This will be my third winter using them, and they give me peace of mind. By the end of winter they would have already started a small patch of brood that the cluster wouldn’t leave. And yes, they will leave honey in place in order to go up and get the sugar. You can replace the candy board with a new one, or just slide in some candy cakes, which is usually what I do. All rights reserved Honey Bee Suite Â© 2009-2021 by Rusty Burlew. I, for example, am still uncomfortable with oxalic acid vaporization, so I don’t use it. Carefully crafted to give you a lot, but not too much, Plan your regular transactions and then only confirm them with actual amounts, Enter unplanned transactions with a simple click on a day, No need to enter transactions individually, combine related, Enter amount and description at the same time, Categories will be used for reports and charts, Track progress towards your financial goals. Has that changed with this new method of no-cook-sugar/candy-boards with ‘free choice’ patties, only February is a while past the solstice. This depends quite a bit on whether we get an early spring or not. You just plan your future incomes and expenses in the calendar. The moist air from respiration is warm, making it rise, so place them accordingly. Thanks, John. I love this method, plus it’s easy. They did fine. Thanks again to Rusty for sharing this method!!! Hi Rusty or anyone else that has used this no cook candy board. They’ll make 16. I always love your approach because whether it works or not you have applied scientific and logical thought to your design. I’d already placed the mountain feeders because of cold 20 nights. Bees don’t want to go there. I don’t think the gaps will allow lots of air flow, but if it worries you, you could wrap them with duct tape. Maybe next year I’ll get more organized but this should get us thru this winter. Then the bees add water so they can eat it. Thanks for all you do and write about. Next morning it was hard. THANK YOU SO MUCH RUSTY!!!! Each time someone visits Honey Bee Suite, his or her location will appear on the map. That sounds perfect, quick and easy. Regarding tbh top bar separation, how much separation? I took a picture of the cluster but I don’t think I can add to this post. Do you like this method over your “bag of sugar and place it on the top brood box” method? You can also start with simple tracking, planning will come later. Being near the lake limits my bees forage and they did not create a honey super although they have lots of honey within the brood boxes. I will give it a try and report back. I have three hives in my backyard and two of them seem to be strong and healthy with plenty of honey going into the winter. Finally, have you seen those new injection molded frames? If its to bothersome I can take my questions and interest in your page elsewhere. Once mixed, I spread a layer on the bottom of the candy board, divided the pollen patty and put a piece on either side of the wood, and put the rest of the candy on top. Lots of love. The closest relative of a North American native bee to make the list is the Tarantula Hawk Wasp, the state insect of New Mexico. Thanks. You can make them in advance and they stay moist if wrapped in a piece of plastic wrap. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I just make a wooden frame 3/4″ for it. But sometimes, especially if you think the colony is too small, you may want to feed pollen early so the colony can grow. You can use smoke in the winter. Will bees store this sugar as they would syrup? Without knowing your climate, I have no idea. Remember, the excluders are not meant to exclude queens, but simply to hold the sugar in place. I think you can use the metal ones, although I haven’t tried them. As first-year keepers, we are planning to make these for our five hives. The moisture from bee respiration condenses on cool surfaces just like dew. You need to drive the water out to get fondant. I wanted a no-cook candy board for several reasons. (Using a 4# bag of sugar) I take sheet cake pans and press the damp sugar into them. Generally, the bees go through it slowly until after the solstice, and then consumption increases quickly. Tracking all your expenses is just a really good habit, that nobody taught us when we were kids. In the process of making those now and my question is: Any reason why hardware cloth with appropriate spacing (big enough to give bees access and small enough to provide adequate support for the candy board) could not be used in place of the queen excluder? I tailored it to my needs, and with time it became a small, but profitable business. Using hardware cloth with very small spacing (basically what you would find in a screen window) for the moisture quilts. It is non-discriminatory, encompassing both honey bees and wild bees. You need to check on your candy boards frequently. Can the no-cook sugar be placed in the hive once you close up for winter or might temperatures get too warm resulting in the candy slumping through the excluder only to fall to the floor? It says: If the insect is what the name implies, write the two words separately; otherwise run them together. You can put your upper entrance wherever you like, but as long as the colony is alive, air will flow from the bottom of the hive to the top because warm air rises. Debbe Krape in Delaware sent me some no-cook ideas that she collected, and then directed me to the West Central Ohio Beekeepers, where some of the ideas originated. So the next year I made it into a winter feeding board using 1″x1″ scrap wood. The design of top-bar hives varies tremendously. By spring, nothing is left. Will the bees have trouble if the blocks are too hard? This, in conjunction with Rustyâs moisture quilt (see link below), the bees will stay dry and fed all winter long. In my climate a 4# bag of sugar is plenty. It seems people say to use wintergreen during the winter, but I see that many beekeepers make their candyboards/sugar blocks and provide pollen patties. Thanks! Drive out more and you get fondant. The central area was crawling with bees that hadnât seemed to notice the excluder. You can track physical places where your money actually is (chequing/saving accounts, credit cards, investment accounts). Thanks again! Do both the candy board and the quilt, canât hurt, but definitely works to control condensation and more importantly gives them food whenever they need it. Within a couple of hours I had the same problems as Aram – “craps” thru the middle and lots of brittle crumbles. If winter feeding is a simple 5# bag of sugar with a slit in it, how long does one bag last in a Western Washington winter? However, even if there were drones, they don’t eat from a candy board. I don’t think the 3-inch hole is nearly enough to make the quilt work properly. I'm originally from Russia, that's why the initial version of HoneyMoney was launched in Russian back in 2011. I might work just fine. Now one more question. I am part of a collective here and was told for ventilation to use popsicle sticks but I am curious about moisture quilts and would like to try it on a couple of my hives. I will give it some further thought. No, the candy won’t ever slump to the floor if you followed the directions. I like bakerâs sugar (also known as bar sugar) because the fine particle size allows it to dissolve quickly. In March the hives have been invited to a proven site where hives of bees create honey supers. I was wondering the value of potentially packing them with candy, as I have no surplus drawn comb. But it was important to me to have a free choice pattyâfree choice meaning the bees can eat it if they want to, but they are not forced to eat it. However, you probably won’t have leftovers. I made my candy boards out of 3 inch (or was it 4 ;\ boards and put a metal queen excluder on the bottom and will then put my candy and pollen in there but am concerned what happens when the candy is 3+ inches deep? It is used in cooking for just this purpose. Of course it will work, unless I suppose if the moisture builds up in the sugar mix to the point where it breaks up and falls through the excluder. Because of all the differences, things that work well in one place do not work well in another. Rusty, Elena from cold country east WA state. The most primary tenet of beekeeping is that every colony is different, and local weather, climate, and floristic conditions change everything. Even easier, you place a bag of sugar on the top bars. In the warmer months, that is probably not the case. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Minnesota now has a state bee as well as a state insect. Iâve heard seven pounds isnât enough, 15 pounds is too much, so I arbitrarily decided on 10. I’ve never had bees starve in this configuration, at least not yet. I use the same kind of candy board here in Marengo, Wi. It’s just a bee thing. Yes, it’s been way too warm. Go figure. I also read that you don’t want anything solid between the brood food and the quilt box. The winter bees had no problem getting through. Just above the brood box I added the Imirie shim with the opening in front, then the candy board, then the quilt, then the lid. Also, I read in the comments: “One thing I did find is donât place them on a weak hive that is low on food too early, it will start a robbing frenzy, so I wait until the cold settles in for the season (Northern Ohio).” I think I made that mistake. In order for the bees to eat hard candy, moisture from respiration needs to condense on the bricks of sugar. have you experienced any robbing/pests/ant infestations with having an upper entrance so close to the candy board? Or do you check throughout the winter and sometimes replace candy boards? They know instinctively that the continued existence of the colony depends on her. Warm air, as from respiration, rises. Thanks again. Once complete, I spread a layer of plastic wrap on the table, placed the empty candy board on the wrap, and then positioned a piece of 2×4 lumber in the center of the candy board. * No need to connect to your online-banking (but you can import your historical data from CSV though). Is there a chance they too would be excluded or get stuck in the new excluder trying to get to the sugar? How will the bees get through the tiny holes? Having said that and reading comments, my entrance holes on my tbh are end entrances, 1″ holes, and I have another hole near to the top. . But I kept forgetting to prep for the preceding 3 or 4 days, so in the morning I attempted to make bricks with even less water so that they would dry out quickly enough to handle by the afternoon. I hope the later works and may provide them with an extra boost. I used plastic queen excluders as recommended. Rusty, Please, if you place an upper entrance of any kind, cover it with 1/4″ hardware mesh to protect your bees. Your choice. If they don’t need it, we’re out the money for the sugar I guess (though, can’t we store it or use it later, so maybe not wasted) but if they do and we don’t provide then they’re toast. If the hives have nearly enough to get through the winter, I would instead add a bag of sugar in February or March. Today and yesterday I noticed crumbs of the candy board at the entrance of both hives. Once it’s too cold to fly, they won’t cart them out. Down here I get it at Cash ‘n Carry, which is a restaurant supply store. Hives are placed with some natural wind breaks but wrapping (with either Tyvek or black felt) seems like a small price in terms of time and money that could make the difference between getting to spring or not. I usually throw any leftovers in a 5-gallon bucket and use it for sugar syrup or for candy boards the following year. Moisture is absorbed, and syrup forms both on the surface and deeper in the cake, flowing out thru gaps between sugar crystals. 80 lbs out of the 120+ I’m told I’ll need). If the bars are packed closely together I wonder how the moisture would rise otherwise? If I find the nails pull out from the weight of the sugar, I will go back to using screws, but so far, so good. HoneyMoney is for personal finance geeks, savers, FIRE-achievers, people who want to control their finances. The shim also has a 1/2 inch upper entrance opening. Just recently found your blog and am devouring it at a voracious pace. Is fondant necessarily made by boiling sugar? They will begin consuming it anytime itâs warm enough to break cluster, and seem to prefer it over their own honey. Your comments made me realize that while all year I have been taking care of the hives the same way during each inspection, they are different colonies with different needs. So will get cold (-10 to -15) but usually not for an extended period of time. So there is the Irmie shim with entrance, on top is the candy shim with the one inch hole, on top of that is the insulation box with a total of 8 holes (they are 1/2″ holes but all four sides of my insulation box have holes). I plan to remove the feeders soon, and I wanted to use the granulated sugar pile on newspaper method of feeding and invert the Vivaldi board frame over the sugar, then place the quilt box above that, then the outer cover. You can see this with an infrared camera. The weight of the candy board frames, 10# of sugar and the quilt boxes help hold them on the hives. So stuff beneath the combs is not in the right place. For several years Iâve been looking for a way to combine a moisture quilt with a candy board. I really appreciate the science you include backing up these ideas, such as the HMF issue with cooking sugar. I thought it would be a dry mess, but the small amount of water was amazing. No. For the beesâshould they want an upper entranceâI simply placed an Imirie shim below the candy board. Do I leave them on? perhaps digestive problems? How has your experience been with this? Do you think there would be too much of a draft considering all the opening I have? But I’ve never tried it and I could be wrong. I wrote a post about this a while back, but the board in that example contained cooked candy. The Bee Pro patties came out fine but the sugar blocks are extremely hard, like rock the entire way through. You can use it on tens of thousands of websites, including â¦ Any thoughts, Rusty? I suppose you’d then need to use something other than the queen excluder so that the drones could get through it? So a section in the corner crumbled all over the place in addition to multiple craps through the middle. All that said, is there a downside to just feeding candy boards anyway? Looks good, Rusty. But you can always try it and see what happens, and then let us know if it worked. It only means that I don’t like it. Wouldn’t the sugar board absorb most of the moisture already? Can I use metal queen excluders in place of the plastic. Your last conjecture is correct. I always hear stories that honey bees will not go through plastic excluders, so after a few minutes, I lifted the quilt for a quick peek. I will look at the gutter guard, sounds like an interesting idea. It’s totally normal. Iâm in north central Texas. I'm the very first user of HoneyMoney, but there're also hundreds of other happy users. A candy board made to place below a quilt could not be solid, obviously, because moist air from the colony could not be collected by the quilt if that air never reaches the quilt. And finally, yes, I find early pollen feeding to be detrimental to colony development. The research I’ve read indicates that plain sucrose, in some no-cook form, achieves the best winter survival rates. And it will be the end of April before there is pollen to be had here, so the candy board should do until then? Do you go through one candy board per hive per winter? It’s possible I’m overthinking this! Being fully aware of your money naturally changes how you spend it. Newspaper blocks the quilt from doing it’s job. Will do this again next time. A winter hive is full of moisture from respiration which makes the sugar palatable. I did not fasten them to the wooden feeder frame as the packed & hardened sugar held them in place while carefully carrying them and placing them on the hives. Good work, Minnesota! You can add it any time. Is there any danger of the bees going through the excluder and leaving the queen behind to freeze to death? Yes, sometimes honey bees will dispose of the crystals as if it were garbage, which is why candy boards are usually given in the winter instead of the late fall. And pinned with plenty of heavy duty staples. ð Anyway, have a couple questions about the candy board…. Your instructions were spot on, THANKS AGAIN. It works amazingly well. And if you don’t feel comfortable with this website, don’t use it either. Don’t worry about it too much. Would it be better if the entrance were above the feeder so there is no draft across the bottom of the feeder? Personally, I don’t want anything between my brood box and my quilt box, although I’ve resigned myself to the candy board being there in the years when I use one. It makes it hard to know how much honey they actually have. Good thought . I always try to leave enough honey on for them to make it through the winter, then I add the candy board “just in case.” Usually, they end up eating all of it, but not always. I plan to use them again this year for any colonies that need feeding. It seems feeding sugar this way (it has water in it) is easier and less disruptive of the hive. Surround it with a box and add a lid. (xp14882) on Pornhub.com, the best hardcore porn site. Seems like it’d be super quick? The top & bottom formed a very hard crust but the interior, while it showed a fair amount of hardening was far from solid. If I place the upper entrance in the bottom of the insulation frame, the tele-cover will protect the upper entrance from direct breezes and blowing snow. That’s okay. I use a rolling pin to compact the sugar firmly. You don’t mention where you live, but I think wrapping can be overkill unless you live in a really cold place. We all have to find our own way. Ventilation holes should be as high as possible if you are trying to expel moist air. Thank you for your site and blog. Long story short, I think it doesn’t work. Then, if they store it, they need to drive that water back out again. Thanks Question three is hard to answer and is more complicated than just looking at the calendar. Thanks for your post on no-cook-candy-board. I noted you mentioning a couple of times that the dry sugar absorbs moisture, is dissolved, and then is consumed. I put the boards on around Christmas (usually) and pollen at that time is usually appropriate. With the entrance just below the feeder, it seems like a draft would move across the bottom of the sugar â right where you want it to be warm and moist, and the bees feeding. https://www.honeybeesuite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Cals-candyboards-Edit.jpeg. So, this may be a good time to talk with your honey about moving some money into bank accounts for peace of mind; that topic was one dinner discussion Cliff and I had during a recent money date. . I noted your comment on inverting sugar syrup with acid (cream of tartar, lemon juice, cider vinegar, etc). Can’t thank you enough for your tutelage and great How To articles in my first year! I use the plastic excluders because they lay flat. The Mountain Camp method works great and I still use it sometimes. 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